Showing posts with label Worlds Greatest Investors. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Worlds Greatest Investors. Show all posts

Friday, June 12, 2009

Worlds Greatest Investors - Samir Arora

Mr. Samir Arora
Samir Arora – Recognize change with Growth

Best Quote: “The maximum amount of money is made early in the cycle, when there is maximum change in let’s say, a company, an industry, the perception of a company, in corporate governance and so on. The whole idea is to recognize change at any level – Micro or Macro”

What Samir Arora would have bought in India? In an interview last year Arora said that the best managed companies in India from the stock returns point of view were NDTV, Bharti and HDFC.

Samir Arora was India 's best-known fund manager. His greatest strength lied in picking up multibaggers long before the markets had spotted them. Pantaloon Retail, Trent, Bharti Telecom, P.N.B, Hero Honda, Infosys, Zee Telefilms, HDFC Bank and Satyam were a few of his outstanding stock picks. He entered into Satyam and HDFC Bank when it was not being covered by any of the research analysts. It is said that during a conversation with the head of a tech company, he suddenly walked out, told his brokers to buy 500,000 shares of the company, and then rejoined the meeting. He had the tenacity to stick with stocks for a long time. He often talks about HDFC Bank as a 20-year story.

A mechanical engineer from IIT and an MBA topper from the Indian Institute of Management- Calcutta (1986), 41-year- old Arora dropped his doctorate programme at Wharton midway, collected a Masters in Finance instead, and flung himself into the stock markets. In 1991, he joined Alliance in New York . After a two-year stint as an international analyst, he became chief investment officer of the Indian operations.

Basically a top down player Arora loved making that broad macro call and then went forward to look for the best performing company in that sector. Even if he was convinced about the standalone potential of a particular stock he resisted from investing in the sector if the sector as a whole was experiencing a tough macro environment His analysis started with the top down approach and the bottoms up research came in separately later on. While there was always a talk that Arora was too friendly with market operators and company managements we would concentrate on his investing strategies and thinking rather then become judgemental about his dealings.

  • The main parameter to look at is the P/E. Investors may also look at the Profit/Profit Before Tax to neutralize the effect of taxes.
  • Investors should also focus on Return on Equity(RoE) but analyzing a company on the basis of DCF is an utter waste of time. Arora contends that DCF cannot be looked at for more then one or two sectors. This is because you really have no idea about what will happen to a company beyond three years.
  • Buy good businesses. In a bad business, the value that a good management can add is very low. An ordinary management in a good business often keeps its momentum. But fraudulent managements should always be avoided
  • For a normal steady business you can never rely on the EV/EBITDA.
  • A tax-saving company is perhaps the worst company in India because it lets taxes determine its strategy
  • There are several instances where Samir Arora used his veto to get directors changed in private companies just to help them get a higher P/E.
  • In many cases, money has not been made by buying the best managements but the managements that want to become the best.
  • High P/E do not come because of high earnings or because that company is in a good industry. It is earned over a period of time
  • If one learns how to invest in India, he can invest almost any where in the world. Investing in India teaches the analyst how to identify managements that are cheating their share holders. One also understand why two stocks in the same sector don't get the same rating.
  • Arora started buying HDFC Bank after it got listed in 1995. At that time the stock traded at Rs30. It remained a dog till 1998. Suddenly it flared and went up to Rs250.It stayed there for a while and then started its course to Rs 700. Arora liked such stocks and kept buying them because as long as the company’s earnings kept growing at 30% and the stock remained stagnant it would become cheap and ripe for another rise.
  • He also bought 5% of Satyam in 1995. The stock did not move much for two years. But once software was in demand Satyam did not stop.
  • The most difficult thing is selling a stock when its valuations become too high. Arora advises investors to sell on company disappointments rather than on valuations.
  • Churning high PE stocks for low PE stocks within the same sector is never a good decision. Post the tech bubble while Infosys and Wipro fell 60%, virtually every small stock fell 90-95%. Technology stocks like Infosys and Wipro had the highest P/E in January 2000 and had fallen the least by November 2001.

Investment lessons from the worlds greatest investors

An elite group of great professional investors (world’s greatest investors) have shown time and again that it is certainly possible to beat the market continuously and consistently over long periods of time. These people act as an inspiration and as an example to less experienced investors. The methods they followed have become legendary and these can act as a starting point for beginners looking to familiarise themselves with the basics of investing and trading in the financial markets (stock markets, forex markets and so on)

Becoming a successful investor needs patience, learning and sometimes even a bit of luck. But investing other people’s money is entirely a different ball game. Fund managers rely on hard work, intelligence and financial discipline to find opportunities that other professionals might have missed.

Given below is a list of 7 people who excelled in this and managed to beat the markets continuously over long periods of time.

Warren Buffett
Peter Lynch
John Bogle
George Soros
John Templeton
Julian Robertson
Michael Steinhardt


Warren Buffett
Born: Omaha, Nebraska in 1930
Employer: Berkshire Hathaway Chairman
Most Known For: A $10,000 investment into Berkshire Hathaway when Buffett took control in 1965 would be worth over $50 million today. By comparison, $10,000 in the S&P 500 would have grown to only $500,000.
Less Known For: Buffett is considered by many to be a real Scrooge (in fact his personalized license plate reads, “Thrifty”). Reportedly he is only going to bequeath around $3 to $4 million to each of his children, despite his $40+ billion net worth. However, he does so with good intentions and plans on leaving the vast majority of his fortune to charitable causes.
Quotes: “If past history was all there was to the game, the richest people would be librarians.”
“Rule No.1: Never lose money. Rule No.2: Never forget rule No.1.”
“Someone’s sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago.”
“Wall Street is the only place that people ride to in a Rolls Royce to get advice from those who take the subway.”
“Risk comes from not knowing what you’re doing.”

Peter Lynch
Born: United States in 1944
Employer: Former Fidelity fund manager, today he is the vice-chairman of Fidelity
Most Famous For: When he started managing the Fidelity Magellan Fund in 1978, it had assets of $20 million. When he retired in 1990, it had assets of $14 billion.
Less Celebrated For: Some people were not too pleased when Lynch, one of the greatest, retired at the tender age of 46.
Quote: “Go for a business that any idiot can run - because sooner or later, any idiot probably is going to run it.”

John (Jack) Bogle:
Born: Montclair, New Jersey in 1929
Employer: Founder and Chairman of The Vanguard Group
Most Famous For: Often referred to as the father of index fund investing, he’s the creator of the first S&P 500 index fund.
Less Celebrated For: Admits that mutual funds “haven’t been up front with investors - top fund performance has always been followed by mediocre returns”.
Quote: “If you have trouble imagining a 20% loss in the stock market, you shouldn’t be in stocks.”

George Soros
Born: Budapest in 1930
Employer: Founder of Soros Fund Management
Most Famous For: A highly respected currency speculator, he once shorted the British Pound for a one day gain in excess of $1 billion.
Less Celebrated For: Although not entirely responsible, Soros’ comments on the Russian economy contributed to its stocks plunging 12% in the first hour of trading. Five days later, the currency had devalued 25%.
Quote: “It’s not whether you’re right or wrong that’s important, but how much money you make when you’re right and how much you lose when you’re wrong.”

John Templeton
Born: Winchester, Tennessee in 1912
Employer: Founder of the Templeton Group
Most Famous For: Created some of the world’s largest and most successful global investment funds using his independent investment strategy.
Less Celebrated For: More recently, his funds have failed to provide the astounding gains his followers were used to, partly due to the recent Asian recession.
Quote: “The time of maximum pessimism is the best time to buy and the time of maximum optimism is the best time to sell.”

Julian Robertson
Born: Salisbury, NC in 1933
Employer: Founder/Chairman, Tiger Management Corp.
Most Famous For: A titan of hedge fund investing, his funds today require a minimum investment of $5 million per person. He turned $8 million in 1980 into over $8 billion in the late 1990s.
Less Celebrated For: Remembered for losing $200 million in 1996 when a “bet” on U.S. Treasuries went wrong.
Quote: “[O]ur mandate is to find the 200 best companies in the world and invest in them, and find the 200 worst companies in the world and go short on them. If the 200 best don’t do better than the 200 worst, you probably should get in another business.”

Michael Steinhardt
Born: 1941
Employer: Founder, Steinhardt Partners
Most Famous For: $1 invested with Steinhardt when he founded his firm in 1967 would be worth $462 today.
Less Celebrated For: Steinhardt didn’t exactly go out with a bang. He ended his illustrious hedge fund career in 1995, a year after suffering big losses.
Quote: “In the 1950s and 1960s, the heroes were the long-term investors; today the heroes are the wise guys.”

Do feel free to add other great investors whom I might have missed out.